Louise Thompson and Ryan Libbey, known for their roles in Made In Chelsea, have announced they are halting their podcast, "He Said, She Said," after facing significant backlash for recent episodes. The couple, who launched the podcast in October 2024, stated they are taking a pause to focus on their son and other work engagements.
The decision comes after a particularly "tricky" episode where Thompson and Libbey discussed statistics regarding children starting school not being toilet trained. Thompson expressed shock at the statistic, and the couple made comments that were perceived by many as mocking or lacking empathy towards parents and children, particularly those with Special Educational Needs (SEN).
Libbey commented on the episode, "There's been sort of a mixed bag of some pretty tricky episodes but then some fun moments and overall it's a good opportunity to grow as a couple." Thompson added that they were "pressing pause" on the podcast as they enter "a new chapter in our lives," with their son set to start school in September.
During the controversial episode, the couple discussed a survey indicating that a significant percentage of children in reception class experience toilet mishaps, and a portion are unable to eat or drink independently. Thompson suggested that some parents might be opting for the "easy route" due to distractions like screens or general inconvenience. Libbey theorized that some parents might be too career-focused to prioritize developmental milestones like potty training.
These remarks drew widespread criticism on social media and from accounts dedicated to SEN children, who felt the comments were insensitive and dismissive of the challenges many families face. Critics pointed out that developmental delays can be complex and that public ridicule is unacceptable. Some noted Thompson's own family history with neurodivergence, expecting more understanding.
The statistics cited by the couple were attributed to an annual survey by the early years charity Kindred Squared. The survey indicated that approximately 26% of children in reception classes experienced frequent toilet mishaps, with 28% unable to eat and drink independently, and 25% struggling with other basic life skills. The survey noted that these figures do not always account for children with disabilities or special educational needs.
Following the backlash, a clip of the discussion was removed from the podcast's Instagram account without an explicit explanation or apology, which further fueled criticism from followers who felt the action was dismissive.
Fans have responded to the podcast's pause with a mix of understanding and disappointment. Many wished the couple well in their next endeavors, expressing appreciation for the honesty and vulnerability shared on the show. However, others voiced their dismay over the specific comments made, urging for greater education and empathy on such sensitive topics.
Representatives for Thompson and Libbey have been contacted for comment.
