UFO Whistleblower Claims Alien Species at War Above Earth, Crashes Documented
Former intelligence officer David Grusch told Joe Rogan that government insiders provided information on conflicts between non-human intelligences and the recovery of their craft.
A UFO whistleblower has alleged that 'at least a dozen' spacecraft have crashed during apparent conflicts between alien species in Earth's skies, claims made during a recent appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience podcast.
David Grusch, a former intelligence officer who now aids lawmakers with UFO transparency, stated that he has been briefed on the recovery of deceased 'gray' and 'reptilian' alien bodies from crash sites.
Grusch testified under oath in 2023 that the U.S. government has been involved in secret programs for decades to recover and reverse-engineer non-human spacecraft. When asked by Rogan about potential warfare between non-human intelligences (NHI) in Earth's atmosphere, Grusch replied, 'We've documented that... what we perceive as warfare. It looks like conflict. It smells like conflict.'
Rogan responded with surprise, saying, 'Whoa. It sounds f ***** crazy, David.' Grusch clarified that he has not personally witnessed the crashes or alien bodies but relayed information from government and military insiders via top-secret programs, videos, and confessions.
The U.S. military and the White House have consistently stated that no physical evidence exists to prove the presence of UFOs and alien life.
Grusch indicated knowledge of 'at least a dozen or two' crashes linked to these inter-species conflicts. He also mentioned that one recovery included a 'Tic Tac'-shaped craft alongside a dead reptilian body, recalling the 2004 Navy encounter off Southern California where pilots reported seeing a similar object.
Regarding the appearance of reptilian beings, Grusch relayed a description from a friend, characterizing them as 'Seven-foot-plus, sort of gorilla-looking skin,' while noting there are multiple types, including more humanoid-looking ones. He also discussed reports of different sizes of 'grays,' including taller beings and 'little tiny ones.' Grusch acknowledged that the hypothesis of smaller figures being androids had been discussed within the program.
He emphasized that his accounts are based on the experiences and audiovisual materials provided by others, and that he withheld certain details to protect those who supplied information, some of whom he claims have faced threats.
The discussion of 'grays' and 'reptilians' as alien types echoes a 2025 hearing on Capitol Hill, where physicist Dr. Eric Davis referenced 'Grays, Nordics, Insectoids, and Reptilians' as potential operators of unidentified craft. Davis described these entities as humanoid and possibly linked to classified reverse-engineering programs.
Missouri Representative Eric Burlison, a member of the House Oversight Committee and UAP caucus, confirmed hearing these classifications discussed in private meetings, stating that if true, it would be a paradigm-shifting moment, and the government should not withhold such information from the public.