Matthew Berry, a prominent fantasy sports analyst, has confirmed that he has held discussions with ESPN regarding a potential return to the network. These conversations are reportedly following a model similar to that of Pat McAfee, where talent can maintain ownership of their independent media companies.
Berry, who departed ESPN in 2022 partly due to the network's prior stance on employees operating their own media ventures, subsequently joined NBC. During his time with NBC's "Football Night in America," he also developed his independent fantasy football company. He has since left NBC to focus entirely on this venture, Fantasy Life, which is projected to generate eight figures in revenue this year.
ESPN has reportedly shifted its philosophy, now indicating a willingness to collaborate with talent who retain ownership of their content. This change aligns with recent partnerships ESPN has established, such as licensing Rich Eisen's show and allowing other personalities like those involved with "Bussin’ With The Boys" and Josh Pate to operate separate media businesses.
"Yes, I have [talked to ESPN]," Berry told OutKick in a video interview. "When you leave and go out on your own, you look at [Pat McAfee] as the great model. ESPN specifically has done it with some people [in that the talent either license their show to ESPN or can retain ownership of a media brand outside of the network]."
Berry indicated he maintains a positive relationship with ESPN executives Jimmy Pitaro and Burke Magnus. However, he cautioned that "no deal is imminent" with the network, despite the positive nature of the discussions.
Berry's digital content has achieved significant popularity, with his fantasy football podcast downloads during the season rivaling those of established shows like Barstool's "Pardon My Take" and "The Bill Simmons Podcast." His current status makes him a potential fit for ESPN's strategy of partnering with leading digital sports creators, with McAfee being a prime example of this approach.
While Berry anticipates his current year's earnings will not match his previous ESPN salary, he expects to surpass his television income within three years through his independent business.